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    Default Range Report – Standard Small Rifle Primers vs Magnum Small Rifle Primers, in 223

    Range Report – Standard Small Rifle Primers vs Magnum Small Rifle Primers, in 223

    I was wondering about the difference in velocities of reloads using Standard Small Rifle Primers as compared to reloads using Magnum Small Rifle Primers. I know for a fact, that Magnum Large PISTOL primers produce higher velocities than Standard Large Pistol primer. I experienced it while shooting rubber bullets (no powder) from a 44 Mag case with only a primers, no powder. I wondered if the same was true of small RIFLE primers.

    I used Federal Standard Small Rifle Primers and CCI Magnum Small Rifle Primers. I wished I could have used Standard and Magnum primers of the same brand, but didn’t have one brand of both kinds of Small Rifle Primers.

    I shot them from my Olympic Arms AR15 with its 16 inch barrel.
    All reloads contained 20.0gr (trickled for exactness) of H4198 powder.
    All reloads contained 55gr SPBT bullets purchased from Berry’s.
    I used a Chrony F1 Master Chronograph to get their velocities.
    Sky Screens 15-20 feet from muzzle. So, muzzle blast shouldn’t have been a factor.

    My hypothesis was that Magnum Small Rifle Primers (MSRP) would produce higher velocities than Standard Small Rifle primers (SSRP) – same as Large Pistol primers.

    My hypothesis was not supported by my experiment. I found that:
    the velocity of a bullet fired with a SSRB was, on the average, 2767.
    the velocity of a bullet fired with a MSRB was, on the average, 2722.

    My conclusion is that MSRP, with their thicker cup, contains less primer accelerant (powder).

    Here’s the data. Velocities are in chronological order (so I can more easily so the range), not the order produced when the string was fired. However, the 2 slam fires are where they happened.

    Standard Small Rifle Primers

    Stan Sm RI Prim
    20.0 ! - H4198
    3/21/2009

    1 2677
    2 2715
    3 2738
    4 2741
    5 2763
    6 2770
    7 2773
    8 2781
    9 2781
    10 2787
    11 2804
    12 Slam Fire
    13 Slam Fire
    14 2810
    15 2828

    2766.77
    Average

    Give or Take
    61.23

    Magnum Small Rifle Primers

    Mag Sm RI Prim
    20.0 ! - H4198
    3/21/2009

    1 2651
    2 2675
    3 2682
    4 2684
    5 2688
    6 2694
    7 2721
    8 2734
    9 2735
    10 2737
    11 2751
    12 2756
    13 2771
    14 2776
    15 2781

    2722.40
    Average

    Give or Take
    58.60


    BTW - The thinner skinned SSRP produced two slam fires during their string of shots. The thicker MSRP had none. So, if using SSRP use good range safety – as you would do anyway. But, I often point the AR upward as I depress the lever to send the bolt forward, loading the first round of a new mag. I was on the porch of the cabin myself and my brothers built on our hunting property. I’m glad I didn’t have any slam fired then, or I’d shot a hole in the roof.

    Hack

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    Very good post! I alwasy wondered what the difference was between the two.

    I always use Federal primers for reloads in my AR15's and I've never had a slamfire.....knock on wood.

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    Interesting data.
    Am a non-hunting woman who supports all hunting.

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